Jeremy Clarkson and the 'N' word

sorry ali here - which way does the up thing go? I like him I do and actually he's q. intelligent and I have read two of his books. I've never seen anything in writing that makes him either an idiot or a racist. When he writes he is just a ponderer. Like most men. Ten hours later either earn the money to pay for a kitchen or build it. I know which I would prefer. And before anyone rants on about feminism. This is!

Alison's brother in law is a chinky chonky. Otherwise Hong Kong Chienese.

Ans yes, apparently he used to be a chink in the curtain. Ali hates racism which is why, when someone is particularly annoying, including members of the IRA, she calls them nignogs. With Nelson Mandela for example she calls "like Grandad bless 'im" because he was the same sort of height 6 ft odd and had a bad life (her Grandad was in the RAF and had to look after Italians in Egypyt

I'm not saying she's normal. But she is absolutely not a racialist

I do apologise Veronique this is Alison. The problem or e is that when David went over there one person seemed decent. One English girl doing deutsch. The deutsche doing french and English was, to my mind not v gd. What I am trying to say is David would be a very good teacher. I.e. he would make people laugh or at least get the Python vondeutsch bit out. They barely spoke to him, mainly worried about Govey, which I don't blame anyone for doing but really #elp elp David needs guidance and help?

Truly sorry to be annoying but

Respectfully

Alison

xxx

also what if someone teaches people to not speak french?

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we are one person and always shall be. I love mazzy starr therefore my wife does

Well personally I love it! Otherwise I wouldn't do it - I really like lycéens (that's who I have in class, though I have had collegiens in the past & they are sweet but you are more limited as to what you can do. You have to see what you like best seeing usually here it is either/or. It takes TIME obviously, preparing and especially marking, but I get a real buzz out of teaching & hope my pupils get the same buzz out of my lessons. I have also taught adults (at the Royal Ag college in Cirencester) & they are fun too.

David, this may seem a strange question but have you been away all day? What time did you get back? You might like to change your password.

veronique having come back from ON£ day teachie stuff I thought it was fun how bad is teaching?

People in glass houses etc etc - if you earn your living or part of it being filmed you have to be vigilant as someone, sometime, out of spite no doubt, will use something silly you said & expected to go in the bin, out of context, to have a go at you. And as he has form, it makes all this hoo-ha. What was particularly silly of him was denying he ever said it at all. If someone is really out to get him, that plays diectly into their hands. Not that I can see who would be remotely intersted in the rise or fall of some TV motoring journalist, myself, seeing I don't have English television & only ever watch rugby on the French one. But presumably he's news for the rubbish newspapers.

Replying to your further comment, Clarkson was not offending anyone because it was never broadcast and he asked for it not to be broadcast. It was dug up out of the out-takes long after the program had gone out without the piece in it. The great newspaper of probity, The Daily Mail, made a story out of it on a bad news day. It is a non-story and not really worthy of all the pc idiots getting up on their hind legs. The whole thing is faintly ridiculous.

No Jane, I am not being deliberately obtuse, I am telling you what the law is for French people, in France. Which might explain why they annoyingly write to you under a name you don't choose to use yourself. Actually there is one exception: the only people who don't have a surname at birth-which-is-their-legal-name HERE IN FRANCE are those who were born 'sous X' and then adopted, so if this is your case Jane, please excuse me for being insensitive, I didn't realise it was a legal practise in the UK.

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Hi Jane. I don't think Véronique was being anything like deliberately obtuse. She simply stated the position in France, which applies to her as she is French.

In the UK you can change your surname to anything you want, for any reason at all, doesn't have to be legally registered BUT you can't legally change your first name (used to be called Christian name) at all.

I quite like hanging onto my birth name despite being married and honoured to use his name in our shared life and it means that our kids have the same name too. My brother and his Canadian wife were married in Farnce ans she never used his name but when they went to live in Canada she decided to change it as a wedding anniversary present to him which I think was a lovely touch.

@ Veronique and Sheila I don’t know if you are being deliberately obtuse, but not all of us have our name at birth as our legal name. Preference had nothing to do with it.

Same in my country, Véro, insofar as your legal name is that of your father. So when I was born, way back when the earth was cooling, registration of birth noted your first and second names, and the surname was that of your father, and his profession was also noted. Back in those days, there was a box into which the mother's name was entered (but of course no mention of profession!). Legally, your name does not change on marriage, although it was common practice for the wife to take the husband's surname. Here in France, of course, my own surname and that of my husband appears on all paperwork. But that's fine. That's how it's done here.

No, he was just being naughty bloky Jeremy just by referring to the great taboo word, wasn't he. Unfortunately for him he's done that particular trick too many times before - so he should just have said fair cop guv I'm an oldie who learnt this version of eeny-meeny & I'm sorry because I've probably offended lots of people without meaning to (whether he meant the apology &/or the wind-up or not!). He knows perfectly well how to skate on thin ice.

No. But for the French (& I'm speaking ONLY for us) your 'legal' name IS the one you were born with - preference has nothing to do with it. You can have a nom d'usage under circumstances like marriage, but that's all it is, a nom d'usage, it is never your 'legal' name. Even if exceptionally eg because your name is Couillon or something else that will make people laugh at you, you have to mention it on official ID papers & call yourself Couillon dit Durand, or whatever, even if everyone in the rest of your life calls you Durand.

Not all of us use the name we were born with Veronique.

I agree with you Carol. They are trying to turn us into a homogenous mass which they can then control at will. I won’t be able to call a Yorkshireman a tyke soon.

I have noticed another group of people who cry foul are the Jews who confuse genuine criticism of the policy of the Israeli government towards Palestine with anti-semitism.

We turn Jo Brand off now when she is on TV. It is becoming difficult to keep up with the latest dictats and none of us want to go back to the days when there was widespread discrimination, so it would be good to find a middle way.

Aye lass, they might well ca' ye 'hen' in Scotland Jane. Very like that wid come frae an oud quean wha ye wid ca' luckie.