Oh dear, how sad, never mind (Brexit comes home to roost)

Did these people actually believe the small hub of MP’s? Do they also belive in the tooth fairy?

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I often think this when Ch4 show “house in the sun” or what ever it is called. They never mention the fees and taxes on the property or visa’s. More than likely this pair thought “oh look, plenty of property in Italy” only to find out the legalities and then there is the locals who in some villages can agree or disagree who comes into the community.

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or his gearbox goes bang on M4 at 3am in the morning, And dont forget the fleas from a 100 camels infesting somewhere.

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Completely agree though a lot of the programmes showing now were actually filmed pre-Brexit (or at least prior to the end of transition) - probably Covid being the main problem in filming in 2020 and 2021, so we’re only just seeing episodes which have been filmed with the UK fully out of the EU.

I’m afraid PITS is a guilty pleasure (of sorts) - we like looking at the properties, of course but I think we really watch it to shout at the couples who have no idea about the area to which they want to move, inevitably have too little money for the property that they (think they) want, have no clue about renovation costs for the quaint pile of stones that they fall in love with and still seem to be clinging to the notion that one can pick up a house with attached gîte for pennies, half-heartedly run the latter for a few weeks in the summer and live off the proceeds.

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Ours as well for the same reason. Fully agree with your summary.

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Law of cause and effect, these sorts follow it “with hindsight” showing no foresight!

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I was tempted to go on PITS just to get the TV company to pay for a holiday… I’d have happily pretended I wanted to buy somewhere in Barbados if they coughed up for my flights and accommodation :grin:

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Presumably there is some sort of check that the production teams makes to avoid this sort of scenario.

Edit: It doesn’t exactly sound like fun, especially for the presenters.

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Oh, look, another one:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/i-made-a-huge-mistake-brexit-voting-briton-can-t-get-visa-to-live-in-his-43-000-italian-home/ar-AA1eUttQ

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Another ignoramus who didnt read the rules and is now wingeing. Still he can live there for 6 months of the year.

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Quite - I mean, who thinks this:

It’s right up there with “I thought it was actually going to make it easier for me to play 18 holes once I’d stopped paying the club fees” or “I thought it was actually going to make it easier for me sleep with my wife once the divorce was through".

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I wonder if all of these idiots had voted to remain if we would still be in the EU?
I don’t see how the UK recovers from this self-inflicted wound.

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The idiot actually said in the interview :

“I voted for Brexit because I thought it was actually going to make it easier for me to buy a home and live in the Med"

On what actual planet could this ever have been possible ?
It just goes to show how people were so easily persuaded by the leave campaigns exhortations of how Brexit would improve peoples lives and make everything simpler. Bollocks.

Edit: Ninjad by @billybutcher . Should have read on.

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I am not sure Brexit voters were actually told visits to EU would be easier but more they “thought” along lines that somehow assumed Britons were exempt and/or privileged.

The irony is, many actually voted Brexit specifically in order to end freedom of movement. The thinking behind not allowing EU nationals free access to UK while still allowing UK nationals free movement in EU is hubris, not ignorance.

Brexit voters, now that ship has truly sunk, are all too quick to deny personal responsibility for their votes. Truth is, yes there were huge porkies told by the Vote Leave camp and media supporters, but somehow, obviously by magic, half the population didn’t fall for it.

We wouldn’t want to disparage Brexit voters but surely, they should bear responsibility for their votes that led the whole kingdom into a quagmire?

Between those Brexit voters who are belatedly changing their minds and the large proportion of elderly who are no longer here to voting again, there is at least hope that the growing vote base of young people, whose futures and fortunes have been severely impacted by Brexit, will campaign to effect some sort of reverse in the future.

Possibly after we have departed, leaving “I told you so!” inscribed on our tombstone.

If i had voted then I would stand up to my vote. Those that voted to leave were lied too. Unfortunately the weak PM who basically signed anything that was put in front of her despite being warned on more than one occasion led the UK to where it is now. Also in my view there never was a Brexit, all eye rubbing from the PM’s and of course the snivel service balking at any way possible. The present govt is far too soft and spineless also labour if and when it gets in wont be any better.

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I’ve been following a youtuber called Allshorts. Ordinary bloke living retirement in rural France and firm remainer. He is amusing, involves his wife and granddaughter in his reports and is scathing of brexit and anything to do with it. A bit different to the usual videos and Also Phil Moorhouse on “Another Bias”, he is very popular and tells it warts and all.

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Oh dear.

May’s problem was not that she was weak, it was that she tried to come up with a Brexit solution which actually worked - given the constraints (most particularly of the Good Friday Agreement).

Johnson, of course, solved the NI problem by simply lying about it.

It is possible that without our obligations to both the North and South of Ireland we could have had a “no deal” Brexit - though I don’t recall that being the promise made by the Leave campaign.

However “we’d have got a great deal if not for May/Remainers/the liberal elite/civil servants/lefty lawyers/…” is simply fantasy.

What happened was that the EU a) in fact held all the cards b) had a seasoned team of negotiators, used to doing trade deals and c) we had that clown David Davis.

There was never a better deal on offer given UK red lines. That was clear from the outset (Barnier’s ladder). The original plan that the deluded had was, in fact, that we would not even be negotiating with the EU as without the UK it would simply fall apart.

Brexit was a con, pure and simple, and it did not take too much to see through it. Sadly not enough did.

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We were all lied to but just half believed the liars.

I still think it was a combination of arrogance (we’re special and the rules don’t cut both ways) and ignorance.

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