I’ll undelete it Stella, I thought it was very useful but thought others didn’t.
If you’re quick you can click on the pencil icon and see what was edited / deleted… I’m just about to take a sneaky peek myself
Nah… it’s always useful, I reckon, to be able to refer quickly like this…
I just read it and found it very interesting. Thanks for sharing it.
I agree ! On my forum we have a ‘no links to FB rule’ as what is the point of a forum if you just end up off there to get the info!
It isn’t letting me undelete the post on this thread but you should be able to see the post on thread I started as I wasn’t able to delete that. sorry I’m breaking everything!
As requested I’m reposting my other / deleted post here :
OK so I’ll repost what I’d put on my other thread (sorry I just was so excited and thought that it was so important as that is what we’ve all been waiting for!).
A number of the Brit associations have this afternoon announced the new details for residency requirements (unfortunately only on FB at this stage and I’m using what was posted elsewhere as my modem doesn’t access them, and which as you know I hate linking to - I’ll amend my post once I spot it on a proper website):
THE NEW APPLICATION SYSTEM: IT’S (NEARLY) ALL SYSTEMS GO!
Earlier today, we had a meeting with the Ministry of the Interior, and at long last we’re able to publish news of the new system. It’s not all fully developed yet - there’s still plenty of detail to come - but the news is good. We’re delighted to be able to tell you that the French government has taken into account many of the concerns we’ve been raising over the last 3 years and the new system will be much simpler for many of you. The Ministry has asked us to reassure you all that the key to the new system is simplicity and flexibility.
This post gives you an outline of the most important points.
We’re assured that application portal will go live in the morning of MONDAY 19 OCTOBER, but the decree will not be published before then (and maybe not until the end of October). The Ministry is prioritising getting applications in, although préfectures won’t be able to start making decisions until the decree is published. See further down this post for our take on this.You have a CURRENT CdS PERMANENT
You can breathe a big sigh of relief. Although you must still apply for a new status and card using the online platform, this will be a simple exchange process. You’ll need to upload only a copy of your current CdS when you apply, and you’ll be asked to show your passport when you attend your préfecture. You will receive a new card which will be valid for 10 years.You’ve BEEN IN FRANCE FOR 5 YEARS OR MORE BUT DON’T HAVE A CdS
You can breathe a sigh of relief too, because things have been much simplified. To obtain your CdS permanent you no longer have to show that you have exercised treaty rights for a 5 year period; instead, you have to simply prove that you have been resident for 5 years.
You’ll need to upload a copy of your (valid) passport; proof of when you settled in France, or of any date that shows you have been here for more than 5 years (for example, a rental contract from 6 years ago); and proof that you are living here now. Examples of the kind of proof that will be accepted will be given as soon as possible and will be on the French official website when the portal opens.
You will receive a new card which will be valid for 10 years.You have BEEN IN FRANCE FOR LESS THAN 5 YEARS (WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A CdS)
You will have a bit more to do to make your application, as you have to demonstrate your personal situation and show that you meet certain conditions.
You have to show that you fit into one of the following categories: worker/self-employed; student; economically inactive/retired; or a family member of someone who does fall into one of these categories. You’ll have to provide the same kind of proofs as under the previous scheme; examples of the kind of proof that will be accepted will be given as soon as possible and will be on the French official website when the portal opens.
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If you are economically inactive, you will have to show two things. Firstly, you have to show that you have comprehensive health cover. This condition is met by joining the French health system or by taking out equivalent full private health insurance. You will also have to show that you have sufficient resources not to become a burden on the French social security system. The guideline figure for this will be the minimum level of RSA for a single person, currently 564,76€ per month; this will apply whatever your age or the size of your household, ie whether you are single, a couple, or have children. This is a welcome change from the current system, under which the guideline figures increase for those over 65 and for couples and families.If you have arrived in France very recently, you’ll need to be able to show that you were ‘settled’ here by 31 December 2020. This may include evidence of your arrival date plus having a property rental contract or proof of a job to start, for example. We await more details on this but it sounds as though just a travel ticket and a hotel booking would not be seen as sufficient.
If you meet the conditions you will be eligible to receive a card with a validity of 5 years.YOU PREVIOUSLY APPLIED ON THE NO DEAL PORTAL
You won’t have to reapply on the new portal. In most cases your application will be dealt with using the information and documents you provided previously. If more or updated information is needed your préfecture will contact you directly to ask for this.
Your application will be dealt with according to the rules outlined above.APPLYING BEFORE THE DECREE IS PUBLISHED
If you’ve been in France for 5 years or more and you qualify for permanent residence status, there should be no issues for you in applying before the decree is published as your application should be straightforward.
Thanks for reposting and thinking about it, I totally agree re FB and people not necessarily wanting to use it. I was at work and on autopilot! Thanks again xx
Ps have unlocked the other one!
I think it can be locked again @cat to save confusion between threads.
and here is the updated information as promised (reproduced in this thread only - and not a FB link)
This is not the final version and there is plenty more to come. Please share the website link and in particular with those not on FB to ensure maximum exposure (Quote from France Rights)
Ok will do - just wanted to let it be deleted if the OP wanted to do so but not really a big deal! Thanks for heads up @graham! Xx
@toryroo if you have no objections to the duplicate thread being deleted in favout of continuing the discussion in this thread, could you please let @cat know. Thanks.
Hi Graham, I did that in an earlier post and as far as I can see it has gone now and I’ve copied the content to this thread.
All good, it was silly to have 2 threads, I was just excited and couldn’t find the first thread (blonde moment maybe!) Main thing is everyone can read what is going on.
And just to reiterate I’m SUPER excited - was really worried about the income levels but looks like it won’t be an isse
I saw this elsewhere:
Ok so thanks for your help, I looked as you suggested but under Accueil 3 could only see spaces for this week. No great rush really as I’m still getting together all the paperwork, am I correct in 5 years avis d’impot, 5 years EDF bills, OH’s contract of employment, securite social attestations, mutuelle attestation. Have I missed anything???
which was in answer to a report that the Prefecture of Perigueux was already offering rdvs ahead of the new website opening. In fact for some reason they were encourageing people to apply for the old CdS in order to allow them a straight swap when the new one goes online next Monday.
Now if it was true about the new requirements, upload a photocopy of passport and similar of a document proving more than 5 years continuous residence, why on earth would you want to supply all the gumpf listed above (I have a folder 50 documents thick from my last abortive attempt at Perigueux) instead and then, in my case at least, have 2 100 km round trips in the place of 1?
Thanks, Graham. Much appreciated.
I just noticed this part:
You are married to a French national
The Ministry of the Interior has indicated to us that those married to a French national will automatically receive a 10 year card. We await clarification of whether this will also apply to those who are PACS’d with a French citizen.
I wonder if I could benefit from the automatic 10 year card…? I’m legally married to a French national, but we’ve been separated for almost 10 years and she’s still living back in the UK. I’m now in a relationship with another French national (I clearly have a certain type ) but we’re not married or PACS’d.
I don’t think it’ll apply to those who are pacs’d (it certainly doesn’t for naturalisation (my case)). You may be lucky, Gareth, if they simply require a copy of your marriage certificate but no proof of “vie commune”
The requirements for the WA CdS are to demonstrate residence for five years or more not necessarily legal residence. All you will need is your passport plus a proof of residence from 5 years ago (utility bill, rent receipt or similar) & the same for today. You will need to attend the préfecture once for fingerprinting & to confirm ID then the actual card will be posted to you. The intention is to regularise all Brits who have been resident in France for 5 or more years without inquiring too deeply whether they have been flying under the radar or not.
BTW All those Brits who over the last few years who needlessly applied for an EU CdS & produced all the bumpf required by some préfectures (certified translations of birth certificates etc) must feel a bit fed up😀
perhaps you would explain your logic behind that statement… We have no regrets and are not in any way fed up about having gone through the process pre WA and obtaining a CdS.
In fact, having the CdS for the past few years (whether it was a legal requirement or not) has been an extremely useful form of French ID in many different circumstances.
As matters currently stand, no-one can be certain what documents will be required to prove that you have been resident for 5 years if you haven’t got a current CdS so your «joy» at the pain of people who you suggest have «jumped the gun» is a tad premature
Indeed, and I am one of those (though birth cert wasn’t required by Perigueux, translated or otherwise), particularly as I was unsuccessful due to admin error or bloody mindedness.
One utility bill does not prove someone has been here for 5 years, presumably why Perigueux originally demanded 30 of them but surely a numero fiscale, does.
Actually my EU CDS has already been and is about to come in very useful again as I need to post my passport off for renewal today and need official ID to go to work on Friday.
As my son’s passport recently took over four months to be processed I am sure the CDS will continue to be useful