@Griffin36 Hmmm
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I suppose these neatly illustrate why political âhumourâ is best confined to its own thread.
Q: How can you work out if someone is âwokeâ?
A: You donât need to: theyâll tell you.
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Looks more like a Wolseley 15/60 to meâŚ
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My stepfather had one of those, that colour too. However, even to my young (and then untutored eye) the pointed tail fins seemed a tad out of place on an otherwise fairly conservative British car.
This is about as funny as
Q: How can you work out if someone is not âwokeâ?
A: You donât need to: theyâll take the 40 year old vegan joke that was probably even something else before that, lazily change the word to woke then tell you it.
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And then add, mind you Iâm not against people being vegans / but Iâm not racist / thereâs a gay guy who works in my office whoâs seems OKâŚ
Q. Why is it âwokeââ rather than âawakeâ?
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African American parlance, slang for âawokenâ. The etymological origin of the word comes from âawakenââthe opposite of being asleep. As Isaiah:
Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake, as in days of old ⌠Wake yourself, wake yourself, stand up, O Jerusalem, you who have drunk from the hand of the Lord the cup of his wrath, who have drunk to the dregs the bowl, the cup of staggering âŚ
This section of Isaiah is called The Book of Comfort because it attempted to calm Jews during the Babylonian captivity, a calamity wherein they lost their first Temple and were exiled from their homeland. Here, Isaiah can be read as warning against oppressorsâforetelling a messiah who will punish evil-doers, bring peace, and strengthen Israel. It is a message of hope, faith, and patienceâappealing to any oppressed group longing for a better future.
More than you need on Woke v.s. Awake:
Thanks â Iâm sure youâre right about the etymological roots, but the implications of Republican politicians opposing those who are âawakeâ might be a tad more problematic as presumably theyâd be asleep!
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At least you saw what I did 
The problem - and the reason itâs so easy to take the mickey - with people who claim to be woke us that itâs so obviously virtue-signalling, coupled with a implication that anyone else isnât.
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On the other hand, those who use the word woke as an insult often decline any opportunity to explain what they mean by it. Iâm never sure if itâs because they canât or perhaps they simply wonât because it exposes too much about themselves and their little dark hearts.
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I think youâre right, @JohnH, especially when itâs people who want to stir up culture wars (usually as a distraction from how badly theyâre running the country, but sometimes for even more sinister reasons).
I guess the problem is that calling yourself âwokeâ is just simplistic and lazy. Most people are against racism, sexism, bigotry and prejudice and were even before the 1970s, when black people generally started using âwokeâ.
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It seems that calling someone or something âwokeâ has been appropriated by the hate brigade to cover just about anything civil or evolved.
Woke belongs essentially to the Black Lives Matter issues and I wouldnât wonder if the intended users get miffed about the appropriation to completely unrelated issues.
The term is now a handy soundbite word where another term or even a new and original one ought to be used instead. Unless of course, the targets decide they like the label âwokeâ. Much as the Impressionists turned a slur to their advantage in the 19th century.
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âWokeâ was a term used by black people in first place, well before BLM. I wouldnât normally cite Wikipedia as a source - and this article illustrates many of Wikipediaâs deficiencies - but itâs a summary: Woke - Wikipedia.
But in the general case people do not self proclaim as âwokeâ.
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Well, Kathy Burke does, as you told us a few posts ago!
So letâs explore the options then - are you racist, intolerant of âotherâ be it religion, nationality, sexual orientation, skin colour, less than 100% able bodiedâŚ?
Because if you are not, and if (as Kathy suggests) you call these things out when you are able Iâm afraid that you are âwokeâ.
And if you freely admit to those traits, well thenâŚ
Where does tolerance end and actively anti begin?
I am forced to see women all over the world subject to the religious domination of men.
The UK government has found it necessary to ban young girls being taken out of the country for a forced religious
Girls start to wear the hijab when they are too young to make their own decisions.
Thank goodness here in France the burqua is banned.
Please tell me where woke fits with all of this?
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