Certainly has but people still hiding behind the belief it will
A stop them getting it.
B stop them passing it on.
The old distancing BS of 2m may have been a tiny tiny help but as clever people in reseach institutes worked out because it is airbourne and very light it stays afloat for 5m at least not including draft of air that can push it firther.
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Iām puzzled by that, David. We both had our two vaccinations at the local pharmacie yesterday (no appointment, no waiting, easy done and wtih a nice chat) and we didnāt pay anything at all. The only time either of us has paid for this sort of thing was when my partner paid for his flu vaccination because he was below the age where you get it free 
When the jabs were first introduced, the case numbers and the death toll decreased dramatically. True or false?
Difficult to remember without the data, however as covid, comes in waves, we did have a bigger peaks in subsequent waves. From the patterns of other respiratory virus infections it seemed to follow those. The covid enquiry was so telling when MPās and their statements were cross examined. They simply lied to us to keep control, not that I encourage anarchy but they really weighed in on peoples rights why clearly not believing themselves hence holding parties, wearing masks only when the cameras were on them. I just want a better jab like our real vaccines, something that actually works as one would expect.
Quite true Chris, but likewise people are free to stick whatever they want into their bodies from excess sugar to jabs and vaccines. I just wish people would stop pro vaccine posting as if it would stop you catching it or passing it on. The manufacturers have said as much. Its like saying consuming sugar and ultra processed food is fine whilst numbers that are dwarfing covid in cancers, heart attacks, stokes and diabetes run far higher.
Thats enough from me youāll be glad to hear. 
The jabs are freeā¦ but using an Infirmier incurs their chargeā¦ which one pays upfront. Reimbursement will/should followā¦
I seem to recall this from some years ago when we went to the Infirmiers instead of to the Pharmacyā¦ weāve used the Pharmacy ever sinceā¦ easier all round for us.
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Thatās convenientā¦
Hi everyoneā¦
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Its the truth, we can both look back if you want.
How many very recently on here have covid, all been keeping up their boosters.
You keep harping on about this, but nobody says vaccines do either of those things. There has been so much unnecessary confusion about this (and I concede that government messaging, especially in the UK, was not really clear enough on this topic).
Vaccines prime the bodyās immune system to create antibodies that can then fight off the real infection when people catch it, so that the effects are less severe and they donāt die. Thatās it. Thatās the whole and entire rationale for a vaccine. You can still catch Covid, measles, smallpox, etc etc. after being vaccinated against those things - but often you may not even realise youāve caught them if the vaccine has done its job well enough.
A vaccine only helps with ānot passing it onā to the extent that because vaccinated people are better able to fight off the infection they end up being carriers of it for a shorter time.
Social distancing and wearing masks etc. were the methods of reducing Covid transmission - the vaccination program didnāt exist for nearly a year if you remember, since anti-Covid vaccines had to be developed. But then the vaccine program reduced the severity of infections and kept hospitals being overwhelmed with what would otherwise have been a greater number of acute cases.
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But hopefully they will have reduced their chances of severe infection.
Corona-lite if you likeā¦
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Very good, jabs, point 
Mind you from a medical standpoint I think youāre daft.
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What I find very difficult about all this is that the received wisdom, supported by all the medical agencies in the country, are in favour of vaccinations. It has been quite clear for a long time that @corona diagrees with this since it is not possible to post anything at all on this site about it without him repeating his disagreement and opinions each time.
While it is clear that we disagree, I for one do not find it necessary to attack Corona each time he says something that I think is insane since everyone is entitled to their views, however off the wall. What I would really appreciate is if he accorded the rest of us the same courtesy.
If the powers that be decide my post is offensive, then so be it, but Iāve had enough of this endless unproductive argument.
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Dear Angela, I dont feel attacked by anyone and hope they dont feel I have attacked anyone. There is no vitriolic feeling behind it, just a discussion. Anyway I will leave this thread here for now so no worries.
Yes I was puzzled too, because the last time we both had our flu jabs the nurse came to the house to do it, probably because of Fran, and nothing was charged. I am wondering if, on that occasion, I rode on the back of Franās ALD non paying regime, but, although when the doctor came to her eac h time, although he was more than ready to treat me if I needed it, I still had to pay him his ā¬26.50. In cash too, or cheque, because he didnāt carry a card reader with him.
Anyway all done and dusted now and I will get it back, and on the bright side it did provide us with a lot of mirth in the coffee shop.
Despite having a brother who had an adverse reaction to a polio vaccination in the early Sixties (fortunately only lost some shoulder blade muscle), I always mentally feel more protected after a vaccination.
Whether or not this is sound reasoning, is a separate issue that Iām unqualified to judge despite being a doctor of philosophy, 'cos Iām not an MD or a medical researcher.
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No Covid vaccine for me either, Iām not anti vacs, Iāve had one jab & that was when I went to to see the Doc for a repeat prescription during the lock down when she asked if Iād been vacād, she took a blood test to see if Iād had had Covid. I was more worried at the fast roll out of the vaccine than catching it, (Iām fit active & have very healthy diet) I was it sort of on the fence at the time so I said ok then needle in the arm & vac"d , blood test finished a few mins later and showed positive for Covid so Iād had it in the past & still showing signs, so I didnāt need one in the first place. Iāve never had another jab? Iāve tested positive for Covid many times now, the last this week (Mrs W. having been tested with symptoms fever for a half a day and then feeling tired& stayed in bed for 15hrs, now sheās a bit out of sorts) I have no symptoms & in the passed very little & mostly none. Vaccination for myself wouldnāt help anyone.
My parents have had all the Covid & any Jabs the NHS thinks fit & theyāre doing well, they are a few years away from their 90ās.
At the end of the day itās a personal choice. Either gleaned for the media / medical thoughts of the day or thought personal expĆ©rience.
I rather like the approach that @Corona has, cutting out the BS (type getting vacād stops you from spreading it or getting it). I know plenty of people vacād and have had Covid. Now you canāt say they havenāt spread it too. Maybe many of you have too?
Weāve both had every vaccine thats been offered, no side effects and have never had āitā either AFAIK
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I have had all my boosters and am having the next in 10 daysā time, still havenāt had COVID. (And now fingers crossed because famous last words.)
I have had my blood tested for it twice, both negative, done many tests, all negative.
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we were due our boosters this week ā¦ but now have to wait and seeā¦ 