Pretty unlikely - it is clear from recent history that any concession you win to appease the rabidly Eurosceptic right wing they will never be appeased, they will just take the concession and demand more.
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No that is very true and some of these issues need debating. However there are more moderate voices making similar arguments. Why not quote them?
The YouTube channel the Weidel speech is on is full of far right videos singing Le Penās praises amongst others.
Now I am NOT saying you agree with these but by quoting Weidel the danger is we legitimise more extreme parties.
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Because I havenāt seen them. This item was sent to me and I thought valid points were made. It wouldnāt matter to me who said it.
That is how I feel too.
We all know that the EU needs reforming and with Brexit that has only underlined it.
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The whole purpose of the EU in many ways was to stop a slide into war-mongering nationalism and fascism happening again. Now there are a flurry of populist far right anti EU parties springing up all over Europe. Encouraged by the likes of Steve Bannon, the ultimate aim of many of them is not the reform but destruction of the EU.
There was Tommy Robinson screaming in Parliament Square last Fridayā¦
Rubbish Robert. Of course the EU like any political and economic entity is in need of continuous review and reform but to suggest it should engage in same to suit the semi detached UK which is not part of Schengen, not part of the euro and gets a thumping rebate very year is silly.
The UK is not part of
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To be fair Paul, they are a bunch of fascists. The scales are dropping from my eyes in terms of fascism in the Tory party. Gauleiter Rees-Mogg is a Mosley in the making and Elizabeth Truss could well see herself as a less intellegent (read stupid) Unity Mitford. Bojo could be installed as a puppet. This whole right wing thing is gaining momentum. They feed on the disgruntled, disenfranchised and ill informed of which the UK has no shortage. Weāre back to the thirties.
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They probably are fascists. However, a fascist making a statement does not make the statement fascist. I can agree with what someone says without agreeing with their ideology.
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There was a patch - say when the NF was lead by Jean-Marie Le Pen when far right parties held obviously extremest views - what was his policy for immigrants? Deport them and their offspring to the 3rd generation wasnāt it?
More modern incarnations have toned this down with good results at the polls, the message is more reasonable, nuanced, harder to argue with - but I donāt think the underlying sentiment has changed much.
Before agreeing with their arguments (or those of any politician) look through it, around it, fact check it and figure out the meaning behind it and only then decide if you agree with it.
And a fascist making a statement makes the statement fascist until proven otherwise.
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Nopeā¦ I had no idea who the person wasā¦ I merely followed the statement which she read outā¦ and I found one or two bits which matched some of my own thoughtsā¦
and there is no way I am a fascistā¦ neither before, nor afterā¦ so letās knock that one on the head straight awayā¦ 
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I think some of what she says is seductive to some Brits as at a time when our credibility in the world stage is at stake she offers a narrative that appeals. Why punish the UK. Why not reform the EU instead. If only the EU had countenanced more of David Cameronās Kipper demandsā¦
There is a strong argument to be made for not punishing the UK.
Flexibility needs to be shown on both sides whilst not leading to the collapse of the EU. I know there are some cheerleaders on here for that. I am not very optimistic about what follows if that is the case. Putin will be rubbing his hands in glee.
As Paul said we need to fact check our sources and also think about what the underlying agenda is. In this case it is a Far right agenda with increasingly open links to the extreme right.
You posted a definition of fascism but fascism does not happen overnight. It can take the form of a slow erosion of rights and the normalisation of extreme view points.
Going forwards. I am in favour of a confirmatory vote on any deal but in absence of that it is a shame politicians could not get behind a customs union. I canāt help but think it will be a no deal and that will be terrible for everyone.
Frankly, I think this whole thing on the forum, is being blown out of all proportion. Is it still 1st Aprilā¦ ???
I do not need to check facts and sourcesā¦on a link which is offered hereā¦ unless I intend to act on whatever I have read or heardā¦ good grief, I would soon tire of reading/listening to anything ā¦
and, as anyone, who has sat through a selection of Party Political broadcasts in the UK, well knows ā¦ every single āspeakerā (all Parties) offers something that folk can agree withā¦ even though all the Parties will have very different aims and agendasā¦ 
Fair enough, before votingā¦ one does investigate, weigh what is being saidā¦ etc etcā¦
But, for heavenās sakeā¦ that same lady, reading a page from the Bible would not suddenly become a Christianā¦ so letās all cool downā¦ just a littleā¦
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You remind me of Little Red Riding Hood in her encounter with the Big Bad Wolf, Stella! 
āWhat big eyes you have, Grandmama!ā
āAll the better to see you with, my dear. Wonāt you come a little closer?ā
āWhat big white teeth you have, Grandmama!ā 
Propagandists always seed their mother-love-and-apple-pie narrative with poison, disguising its lethal bitterness.
Beware!
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Have no fear for meā¦ Peterā¦
As I have said previouslyā¦ I think we must still be suffering 1st April hangoverā¦
Againā¦ . this comment could apply to all and any of the Party Political Broadcasts that regularly roll outā¦ (probably not just in UK eitherā¦ )
In a nutshell you have just explained why social media magnifies, amplifies and extends the reach of fake news and extremist views - if we were in the habit of questioning these things all the time they would be stillborn. But people donāt, they just react to the headline and reach for the āshareā button.
Scepticism is not just for when you vote, itās an ability that you should exercise all the time.
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At a rough guess Iād put your BP at around 166/134 mmHg, Paul, judging by your new florid fizzog.
A stroll in the woods and a nice cup of camomile tea, perhaps? 
I did not reach for any share buttonā¦ get off my caseā¦ pleaseā¦
Erā¦ I donāt want to get into any arguments and hoped to provide a balanced response. Clearly it has been taken the wrong way.
I apologise if I have upset you. I am not telling you or anyone else what to think. Seeing as we are dealing with a party with far right affiliations I was simply sounding a note of caution.
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Only fascists recruit others to genocide in slow steps using concepts like honour, purity, loyalty, family, obedience, noble sacrifice, patriotism, and struggle to muffle their insistent drum-call to mass murder.
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