There is actually one locally, but of Andean Quechuan origins and gets sick as a parrot about being referred to as Chinese and the like.
Or indeed Peruvian ?
I do the Belgian number too. When I say Scot they go all Vieille Alliance on me and apologise. Some often go off on a tirade about the English then ;-)
But what about all the rest of us? Dutch, German, Swiss, Irish, Scots, Welsh, Canadian, Italian, American.... are well all in the same box?
The Geordie Pride was around the North Beach area, overlooking the sea and I recall there was an aquarium or sea-life centre further down the esplanade on the other side of the road. Vague I know but the only other reference point I recall (it's a long tie ago !) was a cocktail bar or club (Merchant Navy Officers Club ?) literally around the corner.
That's interesting, Carol, but for some of us it wouldn't be simple. Assuming that you and I live in France, and the fact that I'm not British, I can't really call you an ex-pat because I don't share the same "ex" background. Could I call you a fellow immigrant? Don't worry, this is not a trick question to lead to an argument, I'm just interested in how different people perceive the term 'immigrant'.
Durban was very different to Jo'burg. (I lived in both.) As an Englishman at the Atlas Aircraft Corp I was viewed with some suspicion - even more so when I happened to mention that my grandfather had been there in 1899-1902 in the 18th Hussars (the "farm burners"!). I was under a lot of pressure to take S.A. citizenship - one of the reasons I moved to Durban on the way back to the UK. Can't say I remember the Geordie Pride - I lived at Albert Park.
Yep, that's the case generally Carol. Brits are almost always 'English' to the french and when I try to point out the fact that a person is actually Welsh or whatever they get uptight and call me pedantic ! My retort is to call the french person a Belgian and hope they get the point !
i'm always available for you Nico !
Didnt say there was Maureen, maybe you have a chip on your shoulder ? Saying that, I worked quite a bit in PE, Durban, Capetown and East London in the '70s and saw apartheid in action. I have to say I felt at times, ashamed to be white...It was even worse in Walvis Bay !
I think this is a matter of the English language. As a British subject living in France to Britain I am an emigrant or commonly an Expat. To the French I am an immigrant or commonly une anglaise. Simple!
Pete mate, last time I asked if you were available you told me you were heading for retirement rather than looking for work.
(That was tongue in cheak btw)
What the Dickens?
I have a massive problem in finding the right people, with the right skills to employ in my industry. Our company is based in France and we are crying out for French based Quantity Surveyors with technical French and English.
I also find that the jobs are there, but we don't look for them. Most of the big UK firms have an up and running successful business operation in France. How many people have actually gone to them with a direct approach?
My mother is a white South African born and bred, of South African born parents. Why did you put white in inverted commas? It is nothing to be ashamed of.
Well yes, and as for the welsh...
...not to mention the jocks...
And for years we (English) have had to put up with being called Pommie ba****ds, roast beef and limeys. It works both ways. So many other nations don't have a good word for us English but so many of their inhabitants want to live in England. Something wrong there. Were you living in England at the time Brian?
From what I recall of Durban Roger, most of the 'white' population seemed to be ex-pat brits ! Most of whom used the Geordie Pride as their 'local.
Many immigrants like many ex-pats do actually have the skills but can't find the work because the jobs don't exist. They come to The Promised Land with Great Expectations, find Hard Times and often end up in a Bleak House and find themselves having no choice but to return 'home' . However, i'm sure many ex-pats will be reassured to find they are indeed well enough off to live in France.....
In South Africa, many moons ago, I was referred to a few times as a "bloody immigrant". It was quite disturbing, and is a phrase I have not used myself since then.