Covid and flu vaccination starts Oct 15th

Last week I received my letter telling me to get my flu and Covid jabs. I wonder, should I get both on the same day, or maybe wait a week in between?

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I seem to recall my mother getting both done on the same day last year or the year before, and she is now 99 and still alive. :slight_smile:

I guess it depends on what your quack or pharmacy is providing. Here in Sud-Angleterre we are getting our flu jabs next Saturday but Covid ones are not on offer yet.

My letter says that covid jabs have to be done by rdv whereas flu can be walk-in to local pharmacy. Not bothering with covid any more nor is anyone else I know. If you wait until November for the grippe one, the effect will last a bit longer, if done in next fortnight, the season dosn’t get going until November so you lose a month of protection.

We got both done at the same time last year, different arms.

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Don’t flu jabs last for six months though? That takes us through to April which ought to be sufficient?

Yes six months but in my case, having grandchildren at crĂŞche and maternelle school, they bring everything home so was advised by the nurse last year to not rush out now in October and get it done because coughs, colds and flu do not recognise seasons and its still pretty hot here so no heating anywhere to spread the germs indoors or propogate them.

Sounds sensible!

Why do they recommend it then? It’s still around and can be at least as nasty as flu. Illogical to have one and not the other. We shall “bother”, so now you do know someone who will.

That will probably be why three different old couples turned up for rendezvous at our local hospital a fortnight ago that were positive. I suppose we should think ourselves lucky that they are thought to have only infected eleven others…so far.

After the last one, we were all bad with it (Moderna), swollen arm and felt lousy for a week and its possible the AZ one my son had caused his infarction of the spleen, its not been ruled out. Would rather let my immune system do its natural thing now and my choice.

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They don’t use AZ anymore. If the injection made you feel bad, imagine what the infection could have done to you!

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Time for an anual message then, having a covid jab has never stopped you catching covid. Its never stopped it spreading either.

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No, you need la passe sanitaire to stop those.

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I’ll be having mine at the pharmacie just before the Toussaint holidays or during them, one in each arm. My pupils are already keeling over from god knows what sort of minor viruses.

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Nobody ever claimed it would do either of those things.

The point of a vaccination (any vaccination, not just Covid) is to expose you to a limited version of a virus in order to trigger your immune system to make antibodies that will then be effective if you catch the real thing. Basically so that you just have a rough few days at home instead of ending up on a ventilator in intensive care, or dead.

And as was consistently hammered home during the pandemic, the way to stop the spread of the virus was by good personal hygiene, wearing masks, keeping your distance from other people, and (before vaccines were available) by lockdowns that kept the population from mixing widely.

The other reason for mass vaccinations is to protect those who have weakened immune systems, who cannot themselves be vaccinated. So-called “herd immunity” in a vaccinated population helps reduce the spread of the virus because most of the people it comes into contact with are immune. a vaccinated individual can still catch the virus, but will usually suffer only a mild form of the infection and rid their system of it more quickly, reducing the chances of them passing it to someone vulnerable.

Think you’ll find the manufacturers did originally until cross examined under oath. Multiple governments also trotted out the same message, some every night on the Boris Johnson show.

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Oh look a pig with wings :joy:

Yes for most other vaccines that is true but not in the case of a covid jab, wont refer to it as a vaccine.

Presumably you are a greater authority on such things that the World Health Organisation? :smiley:

And the British Heart Foundation page that you linked to says:

Research has shown that vaccination is a safe and effective way of reducing your risk of severe Covid infection, so is the best thing you can do to reduce your risk of Covid-19 complications, including heart damage.

They say nothing about vaccines, they are describing the effects of the virus itself, so I’m not sure what your point is.

I dont need to be, plenty of very clever professors and doctors have shown data to support research. Whereas the WHO are owned by big pharma, or later given positions within big pharma companies

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I wondered when that ludicrous assertion would emerge.

I see no point in debating this topic with you any longer, if your position is that Covid was all a big conspiracy to boost pharmaceutical companies’ profits.

Tell that to the many thousands who died, including people I knew personally.

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