EV Charging in France

Personally, I’d get an insured professional to do it. Heaven forbid, if anything did go wrong a bricolage installation wouldn’t go down well with your insurers. It shouldn’t cost very much to just wire it up.

As a rather amusing aside, ask your Electric Ireland (AKA ESB) pal why cables on the ESB fast (50kW :roll_eyes:) chargers in central Dublin are too short :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

This is going to give me problems when I’m there over Christmas :frowning:

When I plug the car into the normal plug in the abri the car seems to pull 2kW. This video seems to say that with the Legrand socket it would be 3.7kW and with an even bigger :thinking: socket 11kW (the same as my expensive wall box) could be achieved. So, should I have even bothered with the wallbox?

Thanks for the Tough Leads tip. Just what I need.

Not sure he’ll know. He put electrical installations into large factories. He keeps his hand in here helping a local French electrician wire up cafes/bars and houses. Although I’m not sure who’s helping who!

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The problem is probably that with a cable, there are always losses which will turn into heat. The longer the cable the higher the losses and hence more heat. The higher charge rate also means even larger losses and hence even more heat. Probably sensible to keep the lead as short as possible to avoid the inevitable heat issues. Of course if it’s so short that you can’t use it then it’s not really practical.

Leo cutting the funding. I am surprised the chargers work in Ireland. Last time i was there only 2 chargers from a row of 8 were working at the petrol station at Urlingford.

Anyway we dont need to worry about charging the electric gokarts. If Kahn gets his way, and the extension of the ulez is only the beginning, you wont own a car by 2030. Only 190 or so in 1000 will own a car. You will have to walk or use public transport, which in Ireland could be a problem.

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Only if your charge controller* is rated for it. The Legrand system uses a magnet in the socket to operate a switch in the plug of the granny charger that then invokes the extra capacity via communication by the charge controller in the lead with the on board charger in the vehicle.

*That is what the box of tricks of the granny charger is, the AC charger itself is built into the vehicle & depending on settings sent by the charge controller (e.g. your granny charger or wallbox) it will vary it’s demand.

For example my 2015 eNV-200 van only has a 3,6kW AC charger on board. When I charge it from my 7kW rated Type 2 charger (wallbox) it still only draws 3,6kW, whereas the car draws 6,6kW.

You need the wallbox to charge at any rate over 3,7kW, via a Type 2 lead. Domestically the maximum tends to be around 7kW single phase & 22kW three phase, but your supply limitation will come into play, especially in France.

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Park the other way round? OK, it might be a one way street…

I still don’t know why some manufacturers put their charging inlets on the side of a vehicle. I foresee many problems with physical damage. They probably don’t switch the side over for right hand drive territories either.

Of course, many manufacturers place the charging inlets on the front or rear, often centrally, which strikes me as very sensible, & more international,

I reckon this charging point was one intended for parking nosed or reversed up to the device, rather than sideways on, hence shorter cable.

More like a stupid committee meating decision taken without the presence of an engineer to point out the obvious. Hopefully wireless charging could end the issue in a few years.

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Yes, that would seem the logical thing to do, but they’ve put the quayside and there’s no right turn on to it. Unless your coming from the northside of the river, you’d have to approach as I did and then do a three point turn in traffic. It’s a penny pinching F-up, like all the infrastructure in Dublin, ever.

I agree, putting the charging port where the old fuel filler was on models that are ICE and EV is just cheap and lazy.

True, but there’s no point in putting in chargers that are so difficult to use. After I took the photo a taxi driver in an ID 4 (there’;s quite a few of them in Dublin) and had exactly the same problem. He told me it’s a disaster. Meanwhile the ESB boast about their lousy, inadequate network.

It’s not Leo, it’s the overpaid halfwits in the ESB. Leo doesn’t know what an electric car is. Nor does the minister for transport (an idiot I had the misfortune of dealing with deal his last outing as minister).

Did you hear the one about the electric busses :joy:

Electric buses shambles typical of State’s costly inability to deliver

The buses lie idle and the people whose job it was to plan the charging infrastructure sit at their desks

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Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan and National Transport Authority chief executive Anne Graham at the 2022 announcement of the authority’s order for multiple double-deck battery-electric buses. File Photograph: Gareth Chaney/Collins

The National Transport Authority (NTA) bought 134 brand new all-electric buses in June 2022 for use in Dublin. There are 100 new double-decker buses and 34 single-deck electric buses in storage around the city, but none are in use because the NTA failed to get planning permission for the charging infrastructure to enable them to operate. An NTA spokesperson said that the project to plan, commission and seek planning approval for the infrastructure is now “under way”. The buses cost us at least €50 million and we don’t yet know the cost of the unbuilt charging infrastructure.

Poor old Ireland is a basket case, as ever. The corporate tax scam (disclosure: I’ve been on the board of a company that availed of it :roll_eyes:) has kept the show on the road for the last twenty years, but the incompetent clowns in power over that period (and long before) have, despite rolling in cash, managed inter alia to ruin the public health service, preside over a housing crisis, have the shittiest public transport system in any western capital I’ve been to (and a lot of smaller towns too, have let crime in the capital get out of control and still have very high personal taxation rates. Sadly, Ireland is run by the Public Sector for the Public Sector and has been since 1922. Goodness knows what will happen what will when MNC’s windfall taxes run out due to tax harmonisation.

The good thing about Irish politicians is that while most of them are incompetent, they are not nasty like the Tories. :slightly_smiling_face:

Glad I got that off my chest :joy:

The ESB version of wireless charging will be to just leave the cable off completely :joy:

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Thanks for that info - they seem like a good thing.

I feel ashamed not to have heard of them before :pleading_face:

An oddly specific number, what leads you to 190 rather than any other figure?

The number that Mr Kahn put in his document about C 40 and if it goes to plan by 2050 there will be no cars in private possession. A very delusional project but then!! So make the most of the Audi, in 7 years or so maybe you arent one of the 190 and have to rely on public transport.

The WEF have said by 2050 there will only be flights available for business.

yep and you wont have a car either, maybe not even a house owned by you. All good stuff this WEF ideology.

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I doubt it will effect me but the youngsters, too interested in other things? You’ll cycle to work which will only be in your village, nice rented flat and AI virtual reality holidays. Just like Scifi authors predicted

None of which is necessarily a bad thing.

People will happily ditch their cars if alternatives are better/cheaper. However, getting to that point is the tricky bit, & where you live is clearly a factor.

yep the gates, sunaks, musks starmers of this world. While you the minion can hoof it.

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