Long Stay Visa Questions

Good afternoon all,
I hope you are enjoying the weather wherever you are in the UK or France.
I have read a few topics on the subject of Long Stay Visas on this forum and, unless I have misunderstood, some refer to the VSL as being for a year.
I was looking at the section for tourist and private visits on the France-Visas.gouv.fr, I think the category is VSL-T, and the website doesn’t mention the long-stay visa as being limited to one year (once again, assuming I have not misunderstood it). It just says they are necessary for stays longer than 3 months. Am I right?
When I used the ‘visa wizard’ it told me that, as an EU passport holder, I don’t need a VSL-T to stay longer than 3 months. Does that sounds right too?
And finally, if I have a VSL-T automatically for the above-mentioned reasons, and I come to France for more than 3 months, do I still need to keep my UK-registered car in France for a max of 3 months?
All thoughts much appreciated :slight_smile:
M.

As you have an EU passport you have freedom of movement and are therefore not tied by the 90/180 day rule for the Schengen Zone. You do not need a visa to stay longer than 90 days. You will however have to abide by the residency rules for the individual countries. In many EU countries staying over 183 days in a year means that you become tax resident there with all that that entails. Visitors from the UK to France can keep their cars cars U.K. registered for longer than French residents can, French residents have to register the car within a month, visitors I think are allowed stays of up to six months but that will be easy to check. The big problem is insurance. U.K. insurance companies can be reluctant to allow single visits of over 30 days and 90 is usually the maximum. There are companies out there who offer cover for longer periods, Saga was one of them.

If you put the correct information into the “visa wizard” I can’t think why it would tell you a falsehood :wink:

I know things can be confusing… just hang in there and all will come right in the end. :+1: :crossed_fingers:

180 days with LV

Saga are just a broker and LV are probably the insurer they use.

To add “ Free movement of workers also applies, in general terms, to the countries in the European Economic Area (Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway)”

For Swiss “ On 21 June 1999, the European Union (EU) and Switzerland signed the Agreement on the Free Movement of Persons (AFMP). The AFMP lifts restrictions on EU citizens wishing to live or work in Switzerland. The right of free movement is complemented by the mutual recognition of professional qualifications, by the right to buy property, and by the coordination of social insurance systems. The same rules also apply to citizens of EFTA member states.”

I know I am a pedant, but that is what keeps me in France.

As an EU citizen you have the right to come and live here, subject to conditions of having adequate resources and health care.

And for a car you can onky mkeepmit here for a month.

My sister and I still have our own language. Am I right to say “only keep it”

Would that not depend on whether they were visiting or planning to become resident?

No, Jane means you can only keep a monkey in it for a month. :smiley:

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Yes. The one month rule is only for people resident or becoming resident. People who come on six month visitor’s visas can keep their car on U.K. plates.

When I used them they used Generalli.

Ah the Italian insurer, was this before Brexit?

A long time before. That’s how they did it, you had a cover from a European company for your time in Europe.

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You’re learning Inuit or Hungarian? :wink:

As with the SAGA statement above, be careful as the T&C’s often specify that the vehicle must be on the drive of the insured address every xx months. I at one point had SAGA insurance and was convinced i was ok until OH downloaded the T&C’s and informed me it was a maximum of 3 months in between being on our UK registered address driveway to be insured in the EU.

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Just checked T&Cs Peter, just says up to 180 days per annum any one trip in the EU. So seems ok.

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AIUI insurers can only issue policies in the country in which they are registered to do business. Some larger companies have subsiduaries in other countries

A UK car needs a UK insurer. Foreign travel requires inclusion in, or an extension of, the basic policy for ‘comprehensive’ cover but has to include ‘third party’ cover to the minimum required in EU countries and a few others…

I’ve been getting foreign cover on my UK cars for the last 60 years with a multitude of insurers. Currently I’m back with LV who do provide 180 days comprehensive foreign cover in the base policy.

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NFU mutual and AXA both include fully comp abroad as std. Although AXA also own Swift Cover they do not include this feature, devil is always in the detail with insurance companies so reading and checking is always best. NFU mutal std 3 months in the EU, they will extend subject to an application to do so for up to 180.

So do my insurers, Accredited Insurance, via brokers Policy Expert- fully comp for visits up to 90 days.