I have a naive question, because I am new to this self-employed lark. I set up a scientific consultancy as a micro-entreprise and have now been contacted to do some work in a legal proceeding, It is time to get serious and get some protection. Can I charge these as business expenses to my enterprise?
If you are on réel, why not. You will have to find out the appropriate expenses codes. There is def a category for insurances. I imagine the declaration could come under the Fees category since it is a fee to the notaire.
If you are on the simplified setup, you do not claim any kind of actual expenses. You say AE does that stand for Auto Entrepreneur? If it does you will be in the simplified scheme with a flat rate expenses allowance. You declare your turnover and everything is based on that as I understand it.
Thanks for the quick response. I am indeed on the simplified AE and not on the régime réel. Right then, I will pay for these from my personal bank account.
I just got a reply from my accountant. According to her, I can’t deduct my expenses from ME, but I can apply for a 50% reduction of my taxable income. I am not quite sure if I follow my accountant’s description. It might be lost in translation. Does anyone know what this tax reduction is called?
An abattement forfaitaire pour les frais professionnels of 50% for services or 34% for bnc is applied to your turnover to give your taxable income. Eg if you provide a service and your turnover is 40k your taxable income is 20k. You do not have to apply for this it happens automatically.
Could that be what she meant.
Accountants tend to not understand how the auto entrepreneur works because auto entrepreneurs do not normally use accountants. So it is possible she thinks you have to apply for it somehow.
In practice all you do is declare your turnover online and the software does the rest.
Pay for them from your business account, as even on the simplified AE it is useful to have the backing paperwork just in case there are ever any queries. It is also worth one year actually sitting down and working out what your expenses and charges actually add up to to make sure that using the simplified regime works for you. If you happen to have very high costs then might be better to swap to réel (when you could offset these costs).
We get an automatic 50% allowance for materials and expenses. Just be aware that AE’s and ME’s have smallish turnover limits before you are obliged to registered for TVA.
Hi Tim, only if you are an “Entreprise individuelle” or SARL, or SAS / SASU. So if you are a “micro entreprise” I can confirm you can’t claim on those expenses (but the lower taxes massively compensate that small setback as you’d be paying 23%ish instead of 45% if not 80%+ )
I didn’t see it happen at URSAAF, but I should check the accounts submitted this year. We used an accountant because we moved to France in 2019 and the mixed incomes seemed like too much of a headache to sort out.
No not claim Fabien, we’ve been running a Micro Enterprise for 13 years and get an automatic 50% allowance which is supposed to cover materials etc to run the business.
Others have said it but just to add; as an auto-entrepreneur you can’t claim any expenses. It’s a very simple set up compared to standard ones, the big advantage is that you don’t pay anything if you don’t earn anything. In a “normal” set-up you’ll have a forfait for your charges sociales (several thousand € a year) to pay even if you don’t earn anything
Actually that’s not exactly how it goes Timothy… You’re partially right but depending on your “stutus” the taxation doesn’t work the same for Micro Entreprise. Basically it’s 23% (more or less 2%) but the percentage of the revenue that’s taxed (nation taxes) varies.
For gite owners or traders they only pay taxes based on 29% of their revenue.
For Micro Entreprise registered as “BIC” this is 50%.
For Micro Entreprise registered as BNC (like consultants usually) this is 66%.
So, not everyone gets au automatic 50% and this is not an allowance as you are paying social taxes on 100% of the revenue no matter what, that deduction only applies to the national taxes.