A key aspect of woke-ism has been positive discrimination, which is basically racism and sexism but it was felt to be justifiable because the outcome (equality) made judging people on the colour of the skin or their sex seem okay. Most of us felt a little uncomfortable about this but were afraid to talk about it because it immediately brought accusations of “hating” this group or that group so most of us kept quiet. The good news is that this slightly weird period in our history is about to come to an end thanks to, not just Donald Trump, but the incredible people that are now being drawn into the project, such as Vivek, Elon, Tulsi, JFK Jr etc, but mainly the American people who knew intuitively what the right thing to do was on November 5th
And they still got it wrong
How so?
Culture tends to be cyclical, going through alternative periods of permissiveness and then propriety. It doesn’t seem to exactly repeat, but there may be similar trends.
Yes I agree. There is a definite sense of the ‘pendulum swinging’. Some people argue it’s a transition from female principle to male - or old yin to young yang, if you’re into Tao. But definitely some necessary correction has occurred, not just politically but also on a psychic level. It’s interesting to observe how people are reacting to it
Felon45s campaign was never about policy, it was about racism, misogyny, and lies - along with a huge dose of good old American anti-intellectualism.
Looks like you bought the nonsense. The people he has surrounded himself are beyond flawed. They are sociopaths and criminals.
Who is going to ‘impose’ peace on Russia?
As for Trump, time will reveal that his election has been a very bad thing for the vast majority of Americans and for the rest of us.
You know why it’s called that and why it’s necessary, don’t you? Because the racist, religious and elitist discrimination that’s been around for centuries still exists. Bigots made it essential, not so called “woke”.
Do we not think this thread should be calmed down. We can all get on, be us right or left, woke or whatever you call them. This is a forum called Survive France and not a political place whereby people can slang each other off. And in that I include the left wing regulars as much as the ‘right’ leaning newbies. Please stop
@mark cannot find your real moniker as @mark put in loads of possibiities. That is your opinion that they got it wrong. Maybe they got it right
It’s the politics category 
Surely once people aren’t being rude to one another vigorous and passionate debate is good.
Yes, agree. It is certainly the place for this kind of thread… but not if it is all one sided and passive aggressive with posters asking for proof when a forum is a place for thoughts and ideas?
And your point is?
Maybe not proof, but certainly evidence, is required.
flobil, I agree. I’m much more interested in discussing ideas in good faith than argument for the sake of it (bad faith) or endlessly demanding evidence, purely to derail someone else’s argument
You started with false premises followed by bad faith arguments.
No wonder you’re getting push back,
Nothing you have posted has any basis in reality, but comes from the Right Wing Noise Machine.
If there’s no evidence it’s probably made up twaddle 
Contradicting points without genuine reasoning and endlessly demanding evidence are tactics designed to derail meaningful discussion rather than foster understanding. This is prioritising domination over constructive dialogue and shows zero respect for the pursuit of truth or resolution. Wouldn’t it be more interesting to discuss the ideas?
Why not start an “Ideas” thread and see who bites? @flobil seems to be on a similar track.
Personally, I don’t want to discuss anything with you, I’ve seen enough.