Strasbourg expats

Bonjour friends, I decided!
Strasbourg will my home for the first year or so. I’ll be there around Oct/ Nov this year. I’m looking for bilingual friends who live in and around the 67000`s. I also need to find an apartment ect but the reason I created this thread is to try to meet nice folks on here who I may become friends with before I get there. Anyone who has relocated to Strasbourg who has gone the visa process (VLS-TS,) and is interested in sharing some info advice or tips, ideas please let me know. I’m a 61 male, from USA but live in CDMX now. I don’t speak but a few french phrases but I learned basic Spanish so I’m all in to learn to listen and experience France et al. I’m recently widowed and have 3 pets 2 doggos and a cat. Oh and my budget for rent is around €1000/ mo not including other expenses. I know the city and it’s neighborhoods, generally but it be great to narrow the areas to avoid as most of Strasbourg is pretty chill, and I wont have a car.

Merci d’avoir lu
John

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Best of luck John. A new start :slightly_smiling_face:

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We visited Strasbourg once. Lovely city which felt very manageable in the navigating thereof. Almost village-y (I suppose you know that already).

You’ll probably find a few anglophones in associations.

And thanks for sharing your arrière-plan.

Visa process (we did it last year) was straightforward because I had methodically got every bit of paper together before the “interview”. Lady who dealt with us couldn’t have been more helpful (including photocopying two sets of bank statements: I hadn’t anticipated we’d need one set each. I appreciate this won’t apply to you: much sympathy).

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Welcome to Survive France - keep us posted on your journey!

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Strasbourg looked attractive to us when we visited about 20 years ago. The area around seemed very flat IIRC, but that may not concern you if you live in the city.

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Hello John

I’m in Strasbourg. It’s mostly apartments here and hardly any have gardens. For €1000 you can expect to get a smallish place. Are your dogs and cat used to living in an apartment? I’m not sure how easy it would be to find a landlord willing to rent to a pet owner. Perhaps you should contact Americans in Alsace to see if anyone’s looking for a tenant? There’s also the “English-speaking Community of Strasbourg”.

Pretty much everywhere is OK with the exception of Hautepierre and Neuhof. But I would never rent without visiting the place myself first.

Have you also considered Kehl just over the Rhein in Germany? It might be slightly better value and I get the impression the German estate agents are more trustworthy.

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Hello Helen, thank for the reply and nice to meet you, maybe in person some day. Have you heard of this company SCOT https://scot-relocation.com ? It’s a Strasbourg based relocation service. I sent a note yesterday to them and I assume they will have some advice and of course for a fee offer some assistance. I’m flexable on the apartment as to what I’ve seen there seems to be no problem with a balcony but also occasionally I’ve seen some places with a small garden and outside the city center of course many more options but Id rather be in the 67000 at least for the first year. I definitely have no issues to be farther from the city center provided it has public transportation. I live in an apartment now in Mexico City and the dogs are very well trained as I’ve been a doggo owner almost all my life. But of possible Im going to try to get a one year prior with the hope the service I use to help will be willing and able to show me virtually some apartments because it would just be easier with the pets to move them to one place. Although I agree it would be better to view them in person, I’m still not 100% certain a temporary Airbnb would suffice the visa requirements. Anyway that’s why I’m working on all options and trying to get as much information to make a decision.

Germany is not going work for me as a retired pensioner but I look forward to visiting.

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Hi Porridge, thanks for you comments. And congratulations! Did you have a one year rental contract as part of your original application? Or did you do a temporary like Airbnb for 3 or similar?
Good tip on the details of the documents, in triplicate!!
Merci

Strasbourg has a good tram network so, if you live within walking distance of a tram stop, you can get into the city centre very quickly. No need to stay in 67000
Here’s a tram map:

I have never heard of SCOT but I can see the appeal of using a relocation company in your case. If they can find you an apartment with a functioning kitchen (many rentals are completely bare - pretty much just a sink), meet you at the airport and transport you and your animals to the apartment, that will make things a lot less stressful.

If you don’t want to buy a car there are good schemes where you can hire a vehicle for shopping trips, day trips, etc. Here’s the best known scheme: https://grand-est.citiz.coop/
Apparently it works very well.

By the way, you probably don’t want a “balcon”. They’re really tiny - just enough space for smoking a fag. I use mine to escape from my husband with a vodka martini.
What you really want is a “terrasse”. A terrasse would be big enough for the dogs to sit out on. Hardly any flats in the centre have terrasses, at best they just have balcons. So yet another reason to look for something further out, near the tramline.
If at all possible, I would consider stretching the budget and looking for a small house with a garden. These exist, but again not in the centre. I think the owners of this kind of property would be more likely to entertain the idea of renting to someone with 2 dogs and a cat.

That said, you could try contacting this agency and inquire about the apartment in rue de l’Aubépines in the very pleasant Robertsau neighbourhood. A Scottish friend of mine died last summer (not in the flat in case that matters!) and the apartment she rented has yet to find a new tenant. I don’t really understand why it hasn’t been snapped up but a friend thinks it’s because the bathroom is very dated and the kitchen extremely basic. It’s in a fantastic location, though. There are fields just in front and it feels almost rural even though it’s a 10 minute walk from the European institutions and a tram that will whisk you into the centre in minutes.
The owners live across the garden. They were very decent to my friend but I can’t approach them and they absolutely don’t want to deal directly with prospective tenants so you would have to go through the agent.
The big concern would be your dogs. I don’t know whether they’d be up for that but it’s certainly worth asking.
Make it very clear your dogs are well behaved, quiet and get on well with cats. The only other tenant in the building is a lady who lives underneath and she has a much-loved cat. The lady’s been there for years so they probably wouldn’t want to do anything that’s going to upset her. She’s a strong character but was very, very helpful to my Scottish friend, assisting her with French admin, etc. She speaks fantastic English.

Here’s the link to the flat: 3 pièces Robertsau proche caserne - Immeuble Conseil
It has a long thin balcony rather than a terrace but there’s plenty of garden around it and outside space. Lie through your teeth and tell them you’re a keen gardener and would be happy to help maintain the outside space.

Look forward to meeting up with you. I think you’ll find it easy to fit in in Strasbourg. Let me know how you get on with the flat/house hunting. And be very wary of renting from someone over the internet - there are so many scam artists out there. Offering to rent properties and of course take large deposits for flats that don’t actually exist or aren’t for rent.

PS Personally I think you were nuts to take on a new dog at the very time you’re planning to move to France but we can slug it out over cocktails when you get here.

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No, we were fortunate enough to have a house.

Welcome, I used Busuu app to start learning French, much better than Duolingo. You get a free month I think , then if you like it you pay. The trick is to keep ignoring their e-mails for a week or 2 and they drop the price to about €40 per year. I also used Preply, where you select a tutor and it’s all online. Choose someone older, preferably a qualified teacher who speaks English and French. They are a bit more expensive, but generally better. I live nowhere near Strasbourg, but as it’s a big place I’m sure you could find a tutor locally if you prefer actual contact. Ultimately, you have to get out and listen and speak to folk, but these apps give you a bit of confidence.

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3 month rental ok for visa

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Hellen thank you dear really great information.
The metro map is a great tool to use besides any apartment hunt, gets me closer to ground for other things like parks and shops.

The car service sounds awesome. Unfortunately I don’t have an active driver license. (I’m from California, but it expired).

I looked carefully at the house link. It’s awesome great location perfect for pets and I like gardening. But if possible rather have a semi (as in an oven or stovetop) fitted kitchen. I can handle unfurnished as was the case here. Just buy a fridge and bed and eventually everything else.

And yep 3 pets, one a puppy it’s just a bit more work. By move date she’ll be a little over a year old. All potty trained and we’ll behaved​:crossed_fingers::grin:. She’s really smart so far training hasn’t been too difficult. But I’ve lost some shoes, caps and even a bit of the sofa…so it goes. Tbo with the loss of my partner she’s been a kinda therapy for me. It’s impossible to be sad all the time when you got a happy puppy needing attention.

And research on this move keeps me busy (as well as some music projects). Each day gets me closer to the move and it feels good, right and a whole.lot of work.

I have a schedule zoom with SCOT the relocating service next Monday.
I’ll keep you posted. Looking forward to that drink and chat whenever I get there.

Salutations!

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It is common for unfurnished french rentals to come with nothing. Bathroom fittings but not much more.

Hi Jane thanks for the comments,
If other factors like pet friendly, a garden or nice terrace and good location for my budget then I would definitely go for the unfinished kitchen. And on that note I assume (?) folks just go out buy the appliances and have them delivered and installed by professional if needed gas lines ect…seems a bit much for a rental but c’est la vie. One bridge at a time.
Merci beaucoup

A lot of gas cookers in France are powered by heavy refillable cylinders that one gets from the hardware store and then lugs up to the kitchen. Maybe God knows why they’re so popular, but I dont. Far easier an to have a super responsive induction hob and here these are far more common and cheaper than in N America.

Not all are heavy - Butagaz Viseo cylinders are very manageable.

And you can see how full / empty it is. Very useful if you are about to cook slow roast lamb and don’t want the cylinder to run out mid-cook.

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Sorry, but can’t get my head round why today anyone would today opt to cook on gas, all its traditional advantages of immediate responsiveness have gone (in fact an induction hotplate cools faster than a gas one) and in France it seems such a schlepp to keep getting refills. And temps in an oven that uses gas cylinders aren’t consistent.

And all that’s before one even considers the H&S aspects.

Induction hobs and pacemakers don’t go well together.

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@DrMarkH Because some of us can’t be bothered to shell out on a new system, and new cookware when old one works just fine. We have a piano rather than stove so swapping to equivalent with induction would be €2000.

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