The WFP bleating season

I'm not big on pies from shops - although I do like a nice cheese 'n' onion pasty. My other preference would be for pork pies but only those from that place in Lincoln. I don't like any other pork pies. And don't like those square pork -pie things they have in France. No. I don't like those.

How we got on to pork pies from winter fuel allowance, I'm not quite sure...

I was just double-checking :-)

Karen, need you ask?

It is the way replies follow on from each other and why people find it difficult to follow some times.

Me or him?

That is just downright rude.

Auld Selkirk toon's a bonnie toon,
the favoured forest queen,
the ancient haunt o' royalty,
what splendour has she seen!
The souter dreams aboot his past,
in ages far awa',
as he gangs up the new road,
or doon the 'back raw'.

Is that the one? Written by James Brown but not the Sex Machine guy ;-)

Mind you, an inion bridie over a pie any day.

I've nothing constructive to add to what's already been said on the political side of this rather animated debate, so I won't. However, I'm saddened to see Ukip members being dubbed "kippers". A late uncle of mine in Canada, a former lieutenant commander in the Canadian Navy, used the term as an affectionate nickname for the British and said this was common among his comrades during WWII and after. Another good word hijacked.

On the pie front, Veronique obviously has good taste. As the old song goes: "Selkirk, auld Selkirk, she's ancient but she's braw ..."

Apologies for the ramble. Back to laying some carpet tiles in preparation for selling my home to finance a new life in France, where I suppose I'll just have to shiver over the winter months.

Some people just don't or can't change. There are some who still believe London is the capital of a vast great empire!

You don't think you might need to get out more and do something a little more constructive, Richard?

You know - have one of those 'step away from the computer!' moments?

Facebook and Twitter may well have been created with the best of intentions but both are now the domains of morons, narcissists and terrorists. No doubt SFN was also set up with good intentions but now appears to be going the same way, perhaps without the terrorists.

Fag is American usage, isn't it - it's interesting you prefer the term poofter Richard as most of my gay friends (probably a bit younger than you are, though, if it makes a difference) just say gay as poofter is still fairly pejorative for them, but I suppose it's one of those usages where it is OK among yourselves, so you can call each other poofters but I couldn't use it when speaking to/of you, is that it?

Many of us preferred the earlier term poofter. And your hero Cameron is of course the Minister for gay marriage.

It is ludicrous to mention Mosley and Farage in the same sentence.

For your information Oswald Mosley inherited his baronetcy on the death of his father, doing nothing himself to merit the title. His (second) marriage was conducted in secret at the home of Goebbels in Berlin with Hitler as one of the guests.

Unwanted in England he spent most of his last thirty years living abroad, mostly in France. He died at his home in Orsay in 1980, aged 84. There were few mourners.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/08/nigel-farage-ukip-europe-janusz-korwin-mikke?CMP=fb_gu

One of Nigel's new Polish friends. I'm sure he and Richard will get on just fine.

" It is generally accepted that the French public service is even worse than that in the UK."

By whom? Assessed how?

And what exactly do you mean? Health? Education? Power suppliers? The post office? Trains? What??

I don't, based on reading the UK press, get the impression that the welfare system is that marvellous, certainly (all other things being equal) not so marvellous as to encourage British people on their uppers to return to the UK.

One of the joys of being at school in St Andrews was being able to nip to Fisher & Donaldson's for a pie or a good bridie. Or the fish shop - we were perpetually starving, so it was worth the possible retribution for sneaking out of school. & Janetta's for ice cream which you could keep on your window-sill without it thawing.

No way, a pie shop in Fife or Edinburgh will crown them all.

Which has what to do with what Ian said? Lost me there.

We could then see who actually could do some waving ;-)